Ilya Kovalchuk will soon become a free agent… again.
The man who will make this decision -Richard Bloch- is a man of many talents. Yeah, he’s a lawyer, author and an arbitrator blah, blah, blah. But did you know he’s also a hockey goalie and a magician?
That’s right. He’s actually played the game, which leads me to believe he loves hockey…and wants to protect it. He’s also very well known as a magician who takes his act around the world on cruise ships, “and is able to keep a law practice afloat in his spare time,” according to the magic organization to which he belongs: The International Brotherhood of Magicians.
They also consider him to be, “simply the best Master of Ceremonies anywhere,” (otherwise known as an MC or emcee). 
“The Magician” is the perfect choice to rule on what has been the biggest summer spectacle in the history of the NHL, which could have consequences that far exceed the eventual ruling if he sides with Kovalchuk:
“There could be a rush to sign high-profile free agents to Kovalchuk-like contracts before a new collective bargaining agreement is ratified…The NHL also would fight hard to have this loophole filled in the next CBA. Under a worst-case scenario, this could lead to another lockout.” -LA Times
Will “The Magician” take these potential consequences into account when making his decision? I suspect so. Is there any instance in the past where “The Magician” ruled in favor of a party at the expense of the CBA? It would appear so:
“We are extremely disappointed that arbitrator Richard Bloch ignored key provisions of the CBA…Bloch clearly exceeded his authority under the CBA.” -Dennis Curran (NFL counsel)
In this case, “The Magician” sided with the player. But in another big case involving the Philadelphia Eagles and Terrell Owens, he sided with the owners, which resulted in the same accusation of overreaching his authority. According to USA Today, “The players association was so incensed that executive director Gene Upshaw said he would have Bloch removed from the list of approved arbitrators.”
“He piled on,” Upshaw said. “He went beyond what we have in the agreement. When I have an arbitrator go beyond the agreement, I have no choice. Clearly, when you look at this case, his decision even went beyond what the Eagles said in their legal briefs.”
Regardless of the parties involved, it is clear that “The Magician” isn’t shy about making big, bold decisions, which is why I believe he may very well look beyond the letter of the NHL’s Collective Bargaining Agreement and side in favor of the greater good by disallowing such insane contracts. You might also simply get a hold of one of his business cards, which reportedly says:
“Richard Bloch – Whatever I Damn Well Want to Do.”
In the end though, all this means is that Kovalchuk will sign with the Devils again at a reduced rate. As much as I’d like to think it’s possible, I think there’s virtually zero chance of him signing with the Kings.
Great piece, funny pic. So when are you going to apply for the webmaster job at LAKings Insider. We could use some talent there.
Couldn’t agree more. I’d even settle for competent. The site deserves so much more.
when it looked like we were gonna get kovi for sure ……..you had that lil chat thingy waves ……….. i said if lombardi screws up this kovi thing he may as well resign ……. so he screws it up , of course ……….. i mean give him his money and then trade the overrated dustin brown , who cant finish to save his life and has terrible hands, to accomodate kovis high cap number of 7 or 8 million ……… i see no reason why this couldnt have been done …. and see no reason why dustin brown has to be considered one of our core players ……. hes just not a natural scorer ( goals or assists )
so deano has got rid of frolov and signed poni ………………. are u serious? ….. thats it ? …… poni was so bad in pittsburgh he ended up being a healthy scratch in pittsburgh in the playoffs at the end ……… please deano ….. resign …… frolov is way better than poni …… frolov isnt great or anything , but he sure is better than poni …….. god, what a disasterous off season …….. lombardi proves once again he has no ability to be creative and sign or trade for top end calibur offensive talent …… hes been doing this his whole career as a gm and its really annoying ……. not to mention all his other horrible signings and trades ……… please deano get lost
I would love to know ALL the aliases you have used on Rich’s site. Will you reveal them to me? Please?
Ahhhh!Chris set aside the personal agenda for a bit and join us Kingsfans in celabrating the Kings for a while.Camp will be here soon,fresh rookies to observe,Hot lookin Ice girls.Lets go to Las Vegas and get hammered at a Kings game.What do ya say?
waves …….. i coined the phrase clippers of the nhl a long time ago and that was my handle there ……………. i told rich to fug off a long time ago because he couldnt handle my negative posts …… he said i was insulting people so he started deleting my posts ……….. the only peeps i was insulting were the kings and kings management – lombardi specifically …….. i abided by his rules and never insulted another poster …….. but, obviously hammond is full of crap and there different rules for people who consistently bash the kings ……………. so i just told him to fug off ……….same with gann , dominick ………. he would never talk about the team , which is what we are all here for – gann would only respond to me and say im biased and unobjective and many other things ……… im like are we here to talk about the team or other posters – say u agree or disagree and heres why …. no need calling other posters out …….. i mean like i couldnt say hey gann your this or that …….. no , wre are here to talk about the team right ? …. or are we here to talk about other posters , which is all some people like to do – which creates problems ……… because once the insults start, im certainly going to defend myself ………… so i called gann a hypocrite and dsaid he was the worst offender of his own policy , so you can fug off too ………… lol dominick, all the kool aid people cant handle any negativity at all ….. the name calling or bashing starts almost immediately …… lol gann calling me biased and unobjective …. its totally obvious its the koolaid drinkers who are biased and not objective …….. i mean can step outside of my diehard kings fanness and look around and realize nobody else in hockey, in other cities cares about us or thinks we are any good , and are basically the joke of the league ………. and with good reason considering our 42 year history ………… so i am biased and unobjective ……… please gann, leave that bullcrap at the door u koolaid drinker ….. if u ever read anything on ganns site you would think the kings have won 20 consecutive stanley cup – i mean there is not one negative word ever – in his articles or in his responses to me ……. lol and im biased? …. lol lol ….. fug off gann ……. keep your opinion about me to yourself and i would do the same and lets talk about the team – not another poster ……………. but he chose that path with me , as many do, so i ripped him a new ahole and told him to go to hell ……. if people dont like the fact i insult and rip lombardi , sorry but that is my right as a fan ….. and you have your right to love him …… but keep out the personal adjectives describing another posters opinion …. say u agree or disagree and heres why …….. respectfully …………… thats how you do it …………. but as we know , all these sites are filled with third graders , and hammond and gann are no exception – especially if u rip lombardi ………………
so whatever …… just venting …….. but dom, yea i know u hate me too , but at least u try to put it aside sometimes and realize im a fan ….. and for that i commend you …… yea maybe one day we will get together ….. anything is possible
kovis dead and buried ……. i cant believe lombardi is doing nothing and is apparantly waiting on this court decision ……. give me a break deano ….. do something – kovis not coming here no matter the ruling ……… do something dean or just quit …………… go out and get at least one high claibur offensive player ….. spezza , ribiero, hemsky ….. anybody ………savard is probably too old at this point and dont really want him …………….. and of course he totally blew it with gaborik last year …………. so whatever ………….. same ole kings
Regardless of your intent, you come across as extreme. You are very quick to criticize yet completely intolerant of any criticism that comes your way.
This is called “being defensive.”
“Constantly protecting oneself from criticism, exposure of one’s shortcomings, or other real or perceived threats to the ego.”
I get that you believe you are only defending yourself, but I assure you that when you tell a guy like Gann to fuck off, you only make yourself look like a prick. Gann is about as cool and mellow guy as there is, so why come down so heavy handed on someone like that? You’re only showing to the the world just how insecure you really are.
All of your confrontations have very little to do with hockey or the Kings and a whole lot to do with how “right” you need to be.
I for one could not care less what you do. I only say this as one human being to another. It’s ok to be wrong. It’s ok to show weakness. It’s ok to not respond to every perceived threat that comes your way. This is called, “maturity.” I suspect you are in your early 20′s. If so, there is hope for you. Otherwise, if you are old like I am, you are probably just another angry, lost cause.
lol ….. look in the mirror ….. another pointless attacking post ….. who is immature ? ……. you see this is the kinda crap i must respond to and wont let go by ………. im immature ??? ………. i only responded to you because u asked me a question regarding rich and stuff , otherwise , its strictly about the team – not another poster ….. listen idiot, as i have said before …… i only critcize someone once they have criticized me first as u just did ……………………….. i only talk about the team and criticize management – not other posters ……… i never just come out of the blue and say crap like u just said to me …. i only respond to it …….. so have a nice day oh mature one
and was only attacking gann and rich to give you the background since you asked me about richs site etc…. so i gave u my background history as u requested , and what occured on those sites ……………… otherwise its strictly hockey here …… im not here to form a social networking club and kiss everbodys behind …… im here to win ………. something this organization knows nothing about ……….. playing randy jones every night when it was obvious to everyone except lombardi and murray that he was the worst defensemen in the nhl ………. they either dont want to win, are stupid, or are just horrible evaluators of talent – take your pick ……. which ever one you choose that does not bode which does not bode well for this organization, obviously ………… u bet im extreme, i want to win ……. unlike this franchise and its many fans , who just hope to win, looking thru their rose colored glasses …… randy jones ? …. dan cloutier ? …. really ? ……….. and the list could go on forever but ill stop …………. want to win by scratching randy jones every night ? ……. or to justify the fact that you picked up his contract , continue to play him to cover your own ass with liewieke ? ….. i think the answer is obvious …… these guys dont want to win ………. they hope to win , while at the same time making sure they cover their own ass …… huge difference
You’re nothing if not consistent. I’ll give you that. But your anger is boring. It will eat you from the inside out. Now go away little birdie. Fly away and shit somewhere else.
and yes gann and rich attacked me first whether u believe it or not , with a clever little holyier than thou rant like u just displayed out of the blue ( did i ever say anything negative to you like waves your this or your that – NO ) ……. so if peeps are gonna do that crap – yes , even your heros gann and rich ….. be prepared , because its coming right back at you ……. that is , of course , until the enivitable banning occurs because peeps cant take it back …….. ps . just a meaningless note , but since u asked ….. i am 40 years old
and when i say attack ………. people like gann and rich wont use words like idiot or moron or whatever …….. they mask and cloak it so they can appear holyier than thou …”what, i didnt attack anybody” …… but they do crap like u just did waves, giving the definition of being defensive etc… implying that im retarded of course and need to have it explained to me …… please , take all that holyier than thou crap and shove it …….. and lets talk about the team , and criticize the team or managment – or love the team or management …… not other posters
Do you believe in love?
OY VEY!I need some Kool aid.LMAO
Waves,
Are you going to Las Vegas? Would love to tip a few beers with you and other Kingsfans on the strip. Good times.
Kool-aid: take a package of anger issues, add two cups of OCD and heat to a boil.
OK Chris, here is my response to your ideas:
Whats this about Brown? He may not be the “compete” player but there is good reason that teams would kill for the guy…which is more then could be said for Frolov. Not every player is a Nash.
And, who is better? A 19 goal scorer moving past his prime, is unemotional and shows a total unwillingness to use his body or 20 goal scorer who is physical and plays all 200′?
Frolov needed to go. He was the last of the “old” Kings and had the habits to show for it. I don’t dislike him but it is time he moved on. Alex failed to transition.
You may not like Lombardi while you quote “42 years” of Kings failures but I doubt you were around for more then 10 years of it, otherwise you might appreciate the transformation that is taking place and the hard work required.
Were you in the Forum for the Pulford years? Did the grit and determination of this past season somewhat remind you of Pulford’s teams? Of course I imagine you know that there were some good King seasons other then the Melrose era.
The years since Gretzky are nothing like anything I’ve seen. Bankruptcy, Fraud, Team Members paying out of pocket for transportation to hotels and arenas and a year of poor conditioning leading to record injuries (aka The Year of the Fuku).
Goodbye to the dregs swept out by Lombardi: “Fuku, fuku, see you later, go work for the Ducks! Fuku, fuku Alexander, see you at Hustons!
A house of straw can not be converted to a house of bricks in three seasons. A developmental system can not be devised or peopled overnight.
What do you suggest Chris? Throw away a long term plan for a flash in the pan short term success?
PS Hey Dominick, think we’ll get the type of enforcer you’ve been hammering for? I wonder how much an improvement Westgarth or Clifford would be.
usha …….. hey there …….. not sure what yur talking about regarding frolov versus brown …. i was never at anytime comparing the two players …… i was comparing poni as a downgrade to frolov ………………. then on a totally different topic , i am suggesting that dustin brown should not be considered part of our core when it comes to signing big time players ….. he should be the one that is to be sacrificed and traded to accomodate the big time players cap space ….. brown is simply way overrated in my opinion ….just not a natural scorer at all with no finishing ability …. sorry, just dont like him at all
and its been 4 years of this lombardi rebuild – not 3 …… now in the 5th year ….. and this 5th year has started off horribly as usual under lombardi …..just more of the same crap ….. no difference maker players ……. just more of the same lombardi type retreads nobody else wants …. except lombardi of course …… sorry, hes way too conservative during his tenure with sharks and kings ……… sorry , i hate his guts, and will never fogive him for especially putting out that garbage onto the ice for the first 3 years he was here …… you can give washed up rob blake 6 million your first month here , but then cant shell out 7.5 for gaborik in his prime three years later ……… the guy is a hypocrite and lame as hell …. sorry ….. hate him
and on a meaningless note ….. been a fan for 30 years ……… not 10
also ……… quick sucks …….. not technically sound , and way way too many rebounds …. get rid of him now while he still has some value and make way for the stud bernier ….. bernier is great …………… and yes, i only need to see three games by bernier last season to make this determination ….. comparing the two goalies its like night and day …. bernier has the same lateral movement as quick , except is technically sound in the butterfly always , and gives up absoulutely no rebounds .. is like velcro ….. 3 games is all i need …… get quick outta here fast , unless u like losing ….. actually , that sounds like lombardis type of player
hris,
I see your points and where your coming from. You present a consistent and for the most part valid point of view. As such the points I would debate in your overall scheme are minor.
I have a different thought process which leads me to different conclusions about player value, management and going forward
Frolov is like a beautiful, yet frigid woman. Great to look at but not one to partner with.
Alex has trended down three seasons. Perhaps the system or the years he was force fit into a scoring role that did not fit is ability but gave him meaningless point totals. Now his stats are averaging out. (PS Zero playoff points).
Vancouver muscled the Kings, this alone makes Poni seem a better fit dispute giving up a few assist points in the exchange.
Brown is a checker, not a finisher. Why expect anything else? Like Frolov, Brown was surrounded by bums and asked to perform a role that did not fit. Used properly Brown is solid in any lineup, why not ours?
Who would you trade Brown for, Frolov?
Lastly, what good is a scorer with out a solid duo in net, no muscle in the core and defense consisting of smaller players?
We didn’t get Ilya, so what? Think about it, until the end of last season what right minded “difference maker” would want to saddle their horse in LA? What to do, bribe someone to come to LA and hang at the volleyball courts?
This was a crap FA year by all opinions. Ilya and Frolov were parts of the pile. A lot of the marketed players were slow, damaged or both. Our club needs speed and durability.
Just because you have buck in your pocket does not mean you have to spend it in the first store you enter.
I’d rather follow a building process then cheer a lazy Russian who profits from not being a team player. Or watch a club dissolve due to poor planning and spending…as we have see so often in the past..
If you were GM what moves might you have made this off season (knowing that certain players had no interest in coming to LA)?
Chris
Had to correct myself, reviewing his stats Poni Boy had decent 50 and 60 point seasons the past two years but reviewing this photo you have to wonder…
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scienceduck/79247294/
USHA#17,
I can’t remember if it was Clifford or Clune that had the mouth on him,Yappin back and forth,But I think you can’t have an enforcer with out a solid agitater.A line that’s going to take another line off their game needs that guy who’s going to make the other team chase him around looking for a fight.
Westgarth will probably see more challenges than Drago,because you really don’t know what you have with an unestablished enforcer.From what I’ve heard he has more playing ability than Drago,but thats not sayin much.I say party on Garth.
Clune is the mouth. Westgarth and Clifford do appear to have great skating skills.
I don’t know if I disliked or the way fighting has become staged events. Also thought Murray pulled the heart out of Rattis and a couple of others with the rotation.
usha ………. frolov had a goal and 2 assists in the series versus canucks ….. at least thats what i recall …… i know he had that goal for sure in the last game ….. but anyways – not zero points in playoffs …….. and i dont know why u think im such a huge frolov fan ….. i was only saying that poni is worse – thats all ….. i could care less if frolov stays or goes …… he can control down low , but thats all he can do ….. we need more speed , and hes one of the slowest guys in the league …. so as far as im concerned , its fine that frolov left …………. however , scrambling and getting that pile of junk poni is a big downgrade …. hes worse than frolov ……. my point is frolov on a scale of 1 – 10 is a 6 , but poni is a 4 …………….. and i want to replace frolov with a 10 like gabby last year …….. sorry , but we could easily have gotten him , 5 years , 7.5 per ……… thats it ? … compared to this whiole kovi mess , i bet lombardi is kicking himself …… although hed never let any of us know that ……… i said last year at this time …. gabby is the perfect player for us ……. hes a superstar in his prime and will be the best free agent in the history of the nhl , yet his price will be very reasonable because his injury history scares alot of team , thus driving his price down …… so of course lombardi lowballed him with a one year deal ………….. gimme a break, gabby proved when he came back at the end of that year in minnesota he was just fine – scoring 14 GOALS IN 11 GAMES …. or some totally awesome ridiculous number like that
…….. heres all u need to know about dean lombardi ….. last year after his flirtation with hossa failed , lombardi said ……” well after hossa decided to go elsewhere our plan b was mike knuble , but he too decided to play elsewhere as he wanted to stay in the east ” ……. really ? …… totally washed up and old mike knuble over marion gaborik ? …. a 36 year old over a 27 year old superstar in his prime ? …… something is seriously wrong with our gm folks ……. and then to top it off , after he refuses to pay gaborik , he goes out and trades for old man smyth for basically the same amount of money as gaborik ….. huh ? …… like i said , something is seriously wrong with our gm folks
…….. and i could fill a whole page of lombardi signing or trading blunders , but i wont bore you with that because it would take all night , although people do tend to forget so maybe i should …… but i wont , because there are so many , id be here all night
and lastly , regarding dustin brown …….. no , i wouldnt trade him for fro as that would just be a lateral move ……. they are both 6s to me …………. but once again , you may be missing my point …….. but ill state again ….. he shouldnt be considered part of our core when going after a big time player like kovi who will take up alot of cap space …….. he should not be considered part of our core , and therefore , be traded out of here as a salary dump to get the superstar player ……………. i agree , keep simmonds , johnson , doughty, and bernier locked up as sonn as possible long term , but brown should be let go to accomodate a big time offensive player which we desparately need …………. thats the big time free agent route regarding brown …….. but we also can just trade him outright if we find the right deal , thats not a salary dump to accomodate a very high paid player like kovi ……. for example trade brown and stoll for spezza …. the moneys about the same … throw in prospects or pics to make the deal go if stoll and brown arent enough by themselves …………… spezza is up for trade and that deal could probably be done … then scheen will be our third line center when handzus leaves next year …….. okay , dont want a center because u think schenn may be our second line center , okay then trade for winger semin ….. the same type of deal …… semin may not be up for trade however as the caps arent stupid …….. but spezza and ottawa are having problems , so i think that deal could be done ………. id do it in a second , sorry , i just dont like dustin brown …. sorry , just not a fan of his at all
A goal in the last game and 2 assists in game 3 and still ended up -5. No biggie.
oh and players will come here if we show them the money , but lombardi is a notorious lowballer ….. had we offered kovi 100 million like jersey did he probably would have came here for sure ……. but u say what ? that would be like a 7 million dollar cap hit for us or whatever …. yes , and thats fine , thats when u then proceed to salary dump dustin brown for a draft pick , like i described above …… that way enabling you to keep your real core players ……… doughty , simmonds ,bernier , and johnson …….. sorry, dustin brown should not be a core player , and should be sacrificed …………………… anyways ,thats the point i was trying to make
Don’t disagree with much that you say except I feel you pegged Frolov correctly and over rate him at the same time.
Your right about the Fro points. They weren’t included on the stat sheet I referred to and I have mentally blocked the Vancouver series.
Fro did put in one good game.
Gotta Go. Sorry to have to break off.
I agree with you on the rotation.Murray, at least with the Kings, has shown a total lack of interest in throwing guys over the boards to mix it up.
As far as staged events go, I like that 2 players come to an understanding that it’s time to go, and once the puck is dropped,they square off mano e mano.What I don’t like is some guy getting jumped from behind and the opposing player getting in 3 or 4 good hits before they square up. Then see them get match penalties.
I’m not for gooning it up like the Hanson brothers in slapshot(well maybe a little tee hee hee, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJkHm2WtSsk ), but I’m sure not one to see letting a team come in and give us a black eye while we turn the other cheek.
Dom, yes but whats the point if the two enforcers were not on ice during or involved in the play(s) that lead up to a fight as often is the case?
What is resolved? Back in the day for example, used to be that fighting acomplished something.
It difficult to see how today’s form of fighting ( Mano a Mano between the big men) serves to police the ice.
Do you really think Getzalf would change his game simple because Parros and Ivanians fought?
PS, did you see the Poni pic I found? No reason to worry here…
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scienceduck/79247294/
Poni doesn’t scare me.I’m sure he’ll do fine http://www.puckprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=609 . His Delta stats are also above avg.
I think what your reffering to is team tuffness,while I was speaking more along the lines of making a statement.Lack of a response in team tuffness has been an issue for a few years.
In your scenario 1 enforcer would not make a difference.Sending a pest over the boards who can keep up with Getz and get him off his game and knock him on his ass would.That is a situation where you need a Claude Lemieux type player.
A scenario where a team takes liberties with our players and our players start to display tentativeness.That’s where an enforcer can change the outcome by taking on their biggest and baddest.Like a Stu Grimson.
The Stu Grimson types are becoming dinosaurs,because they need to be able to contribute in other ways.It would be nice to see Westgarth be able to answer the call,but Except for Detroit(maybe a few others) I don’t know of any team that will throw out their 4rth line to take on another teams 1rst line.Hopefully we get to the point where we can roll 4 lines with out worrying about the other teams match up.
Sorry I almost forgot.Check out the GVT List.4 different set of stats to go through.
I am not worried either. Could be a good fit. Just glad to see Fro go, I don’t think he could mentally get back to playing in LA
More or less you have the jest of it. So, in our scenario how would a “mano a mano” battle with Grimson, win or lose, discourage the pest?
The whole fighting thing still has some evolving to do. Not like the old days with Shultz, Willams, Holt and Hutchenson.
By the way, nice link, thanks.
It wouldn’t change the pests game,but it would inspire a team to gain momentum back.It would also serve as a warning that if you mess with us this guy could get a hold of you.
The pests could be used to effectively take skill guys off the ice.The enforcers could be used to take bigger, tuffer guys out of the game. This could open the ice up more for our skill guys to play their game more effectively on the ice.
Unfortunately this is not TM’s style.Hopefully Westy or Clune or whoever takes up those roles can be effective,and not just fight for the sake of fighting.
nauseating stuff over on hammonds site with the kool aiders continually ridiculing and bashing anybody who has the audasity to rip lombardi …….. i absolutely love the kings , eventhough they always suck, but i absolutely hate the kool aid drinking fans …….. really ? ………… running to the defense of a guy who has won 2 playoff games in 4 years, and who stumbled into drew doughty because his team was so abominable ……
la gets the reputation around the league as lala land because the kings fans are so dumb they actually think 2 playoff wins in 4 years is a success …… its sad and pathetic ….. hammonds site is nauseating for any hockey fan with even a modest hockey iq ………………….. oh god i need to get out the pepto ……….
and quit chirping about , were great, we had 101 points …….. are u people all idiots ………. anybody with a brain in their head knows that everybodys point totals are completely inflated thruout the league because of the bogus overtime point system ……. last years team would have finished with like 89 points 10 or 15 years ago because we had like 9 shootout wins and 3 overtime losses ….. all of which accounted for 12 extra points …….. these points were not given out 10 to 15 years ago …. people get a brain ……… we finsihed 6th , one point out of 7th ……. not that fantastic ……. jesus christ ….. nauseating
Nauseating stuff over here on Waves site.101 points isn’t good enough, even though the same point system applies to all 30 teams in the league………..idiots.These non Kool-aid drinkers consider 6th or 7th place finish a failure,even though 23 or 24 other teams didn’t take advantage of the same oppurtunities……………OMG I need a barf bag.10 or 15 years ago is how we should accumulate the points,but not for everybody,only the Kings……….People get a brain…………Jesus Christ,Hail marry full of grace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
listen idiot …. if u would actually read what i said ……. i said every teams point totals have been inflated – not just the kings ………… im talking about everybody talking about 101 points is so great ……….. well its not – not anymore ………….. 10 to 15 years ago before all this bogus crap started that would have been a great point total , but not anymore ……. for all teams – idiot …….. do u actually know nothing about hockey or its past …… sure seems like it
point is u clever jerk ………. nashvilles 100 points only got them a meager 7th place ……. 10 to 15 years ago 100 points would have been a top 5 record in the entire nhl ….. its amazing i need to keep explaining this to people ……… THE NHL DID NOT USE TO AWARD POINTS TO THE LOSER IN OVERTIME , AND EVEN MORE RECENTLY OF COURSE – THE SHOOTOUT
the shootout meaning , there is a bonus point there when the game used to end in a tie … so there are two ways bogus points are awarded to all teams that werent in years past …… LOSING IN OVERTIME, BEFORE THE SHOOTOUT ….. AND OF COURSE, THE SHOOTOUT ITSELF ……… …… gretzkys first year we had like 91 points or something and it was like the 5th best record in the entire league ……. now we finish with 101 and we are like the 11th best in the entire league huh ? ……… hope u can see my point now dominick …….. no worries, we are still buddies …….. ive just been really pissed off these last couple days with all of the kings continued inactivity of doing something major – not just this offseason – but for years and years
…….. after all, we are going to vegas right … lol ……. you are forgetting trolls like me are mentally ill and find it difficult to leave the house , but anything is possible …… who knows we may meet up one day in a galaxy far far away ….. or a close one ……. lol , dont be pissed by my insults …. im just a frustrated long time kings fan who is sick of the crap ……………. or be insulted ….. whatever
finishing 6th is not better than 24 other teams dominick …. thats only 6th in the west , but i didnt feel i needed to explain that …….. that we actually had the 11th best record in the nhl out of 30 teams …….. i say again …. not so fantastic
i stand corrected we had the 9th best record in the nhl last year …. i just looked it up …… had we lost the last game against the avs it would have been 11th , but we didnt , so we finished 9th ……………. hey its not the first time ive been wrong ……. dosent happen often though ………….. all my points are still totally valid on this topic ….. just a minor mistake …………….. lol i dont make major point killing mistakes ……… i know everything , and know way more than lombardi ….. the sooner y’all realize that , the sooner everything i say makes perfect sense to y’all
Ha Ha Ha! What happened to you don’t attack people personally.I didn’t attack you.I just used your same approach to make my comments, and now your calling me names.LMAO!
We’re still better than most of the league by your own arguements, so your mediocrity arguement doesn’t hold water.
Also Nashville had 100 points that only got them a 7th seed.10 or 15 years ago they wouldn’t have counted the shoot out losses so they wouldn’t have had a 100 points either.
AWWWW! come back Chris I didn’t mean it.
dom ….. hey ……… no crap man …….. dom , yur not getting my point …. no crap nashville also wouldnt have had 100 …… that is my point …………….. you need to read what i say more carefully ………. every teams point total is inflated …. ive said that a thousand times ……………. basically every tems point total is inflated by about 10 points compared to the past – every team …….. that is my point
because on average , every team wins about 7 shootouts and has about 3 overtime losses every year …….. so thats about 10 extra points that werent given out in the past ……….. so go thru every team in the league and deduct about 10 points and then compare that point total to teams point totals from the 80s and 90s …….. thats only fair way to compare teams from these current bullcrap years , to teams of the past when all this overtime nonsense started …… any team not just the kings …….. so what im saying is ….. people love to talk and go … ” but last years kings team had 101 points , hardly any kings team has ever had that” ……… yes thats because of the new overtime rules giving teams on average about 10 more points than the 80s or 90s …… so in 1989 when gretzkys kings had 91 points , that does not mean they had a worse record than last years 101 point team . gretzky teams didnt have the opportunity to get all these extra bogus overtime points ……. u must understand this dom , i am tired of explaining it over and over and people still dont get it
regarding my insults, yes, you are right , i broke all my own rules for the first time ever ……… i am not perfect …… i jusy got fed up with all the positivity coming from people about our lame gm , and just all the positivity in general , considering we have been a laughing stock for 42 years
anyways , i just went to mcdonalds, and calmed down ……… i apologize for going off on you …………. im just extremely frustrated …………… also when i say gosh darn it , make a major move , im talking about an offensive impact player …. not some lame defensemen …………… yes , we need another veteran defensemen and i will welcome him with open arms , especially if he is good , but , we need an offensive player with some skill that scares people …….. and im sick and tired of waiting years and years and years for him ….. we will never win anything consistently without that major offensive threat like all the really good teams in the league have ……… kopitar is great and i love him , but he cant do it all by himself , and hes not really a high end skill guy …. hes more of a great two way center , who is more of a bull … pretty big and strong, nice shot , and skates well ….. but dosent really have high end stick handling skill that scares people …….. this teams desparately needs that kind of player and im sick of waiting 100 years for it ………….. last guy like that we had was palffy …… we need another palffy type player if we are ever to win a stanley cup with our current group of guys ……… kovulchuk ,hemsky ,spezza, semin, and maybe if i am desperate and he is the only guy i could get i would give ribero a try ……. point is we need this type of player to get to the next level …… we will never get there without this ………. and our organization does not have this type of player in the minors …… so dean needs to get to work and get us this player …………………… ive been waiting long enough , and it hasnt been a pleasant wait …………………………….. i will never forgive lombardi for those first two years when we were completely out of it by thanksgiving …….. that is ridiculous ……….. never in my 30 years has that ever happened , until dean arrived …………….. it was like the strike lasted 3 years – not 1 ……… i mean for 3 years i didnt even watch hardly any games , because once thansgivng rolled around it was over – officially ….. so after thnksgivng those 2 years id didnt even watch ….. what a waste of my life to have to go through those two useless seasons ….. of course i knew it would be useless before those seasons even started with cloutier in goal and all the other boneheaded moves he made …. but i would still watch – until thanksgiving when we got officially eliminated …. god what a joke and waste of time those years were
anyways , sorry for insulting you dominick …… i am a troll with no life whatsoever ……… so sickos like me will slip up on occasion
i have no life … it is absoulutely terrible …………….. the only thing i have allowed myself to live for is the kings ……… and i know plenty about the sport and the team ……………………. just do something dean and get us that offensive player all us kings fan deserve ….. this has gone on long enough
and im done forever more talking about point totals ….. if u dont get it , u just dont get it ……….. enough ….. moving on
old days …. losing in overtime = 0 points
today, losing in overtime before shootout= 1 boguspoint
old days = games ended in ties , 1 pt each, no shootout
today = bogus point for winner of shootout
saying something about losing a shootout as u did dominick is irrelevant because that is one point ….. the same one point you would have gottenin the old days when the game would have just ended in a tie rather than u going to a shootout and losing ….. so same thing ……… losing a shootout is not a bogus point ………… the 2 ways in which a bogus overtime point is awarded to you i have listed above
i hope that clears it up , as i am officially done on this topic …….. it can be complicated i guess to those that may not have been around in the past …………… for older folks like me its easier to understand i guess , since we were around back then , and can draw from personel experience ….. anyways , peace ……………… and have a nice day dominick
lol, i thought i was done , but simply put , and maybe easier to understand …… 101 points got us the 9th best record in the league ……. if it were 1995 , 101 points would have been probably the 4th best record in the league ……. my point is 101 points does not mean what it used to mean ……… it used to mean u had a great team – one of the elite …………. now it does not mean that , so kollaiders quit using that argument
and dom , chill , im not saying u ever used this argument ….. im a quoteing other clowns over on hammonds site
last year 11 teams broke the 100 point barrier ………….. in the 80s and 90s about 3 or 4 teams would break the 100 point barrier on average ………… thats it ! ……….
see my point , okay done with that finally
hey dom , dom …… check this crap out this morning over on hammonds site ……. its hilarious ………….. some guy with the name northernpike is a toronto fan …. read what he says …. its hilarious …. he says stop calling all us leafs fans retarded and stuff …… and then proceeds to say the bogus rumor of brown for kabby would never go down because kabby is way better than brown …… lol lol lol ….. he actally proved hes retarded with that statement
if lombardi trade even a bag of pucks for kaberle , it will be over payment …….. the guy is nothing …………. please dont get him dean …………. concentrate on mitchell or bieksa or rhegeur ……. kaberle is garbage ……. lol , but that stupid leafs fan just floored me ……. as if we would ever trade dustin brown for that pile of dung …… not even dumb ass lombardi would do that ……… like i said , hes worth a bag of pucks and thats it …… lol , floggin leaf fans
and dom it gets even better ….. scroll down a few and u will see a link to a bleacher report thingy …….. a leafs newsletter – where they talk about all the offers they have for kabby …… lol , it so hilarious …. check it out ….. brown for kabby …….. and dallas …. richards and neal for kabby ……. lmao …. are u kidding , the dallas deal is even more ridiculous than ours ………………… oh my god this stuff is so laughable …………. dom , u gotta check these two things out ……….. northern pike and then scroll down a lil for the link to bleacher report ………… you will laugh your ass off
usha and waves , check it out too of course
and u know me , how i hate dustin brown , and want him traded for a good player , or a salary dump to accomodate a big time offensive free agent with a high cap hit like kovi , but even i am laguhing my ass off at this stuff …………….. no no no leaf fans , even i value dustin brown to the point where i know for sure he is worth way more than kabby straight up …. first of all, just their ages alone , make the deal a joke … kabbys almost an old man ……………… no , if we are gonna trade brown , it would be for a much younger and better player than kabby ………… the only way this happens is if we are dumping brown and justin williams contracts to toronto to accomodate kovi …. in that case , then sure id do the deal ….. id take kaberle , even though i dont like him very much , if it meant we were going to get kovulchuk ……………………… but in no way do i believe the kings are going to get kovulchuk …………… so forget about brown, leafs fans …….. and forget about richards and neal ….. none of this garbage is happening